02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:18 pm

http://boincstats.com/en/stats/challenge/team/chat/844

Name Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Status Upcoming
Project Enigma@Home
Issued by SETI.USA
Start time 2017-01-02 00:00 UTC
End time 2017-01-07 00:00 UTC
Late entrants allowed? Yes
Number of teams participating 8
Number of users participating 0

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:23 pm

Bunkering can begin in 4 days. Just sayin' :)

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:50 am

I sense that you're up for a challenge Scole

Post by **Bryan** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:30 am

The project will give a max of something like 1180 WU / machine.

Since it will start after Jan 1 you might consider crunching for the Pirates

FB 2017 you know!

BE SURE TO INSTALL THE NEW OPTI APP!!! BIG BOOST OVER THE OLD ONE!

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:45 am

Bryan wrote:The project will give a max of something like 1180 WU / machine.

Since it will start after Jan 1 you might consider crunching for the Pirates FB 2017 you know!

BE SURE TO INSTALL THE NEW OPTI APP!!! BIG BOOST OVER THE OLD ONE!

Might just sign the pirates up for it then if theres a demand

Wont be home for opti apping though and the firewall out here really hates any Polish addresses. Must be set in full Brexit mode

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:55 pm

I've got a separate account I'll put on my androids for AP. The dreadnoughts will stay on TSBT.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:21 am

FB2017 for AP is just a bit of fun as league 2 was a real slog for us last year. Most of us were not enjoying it by the end.
Do you have full access now Pete ? You should be able to see another layer of the site.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:05 am

If you're going to start a different BoincClient after the current one finishes all it's WUs, then you can't can't use the firewall otherwise you'll block downloads to the new clients. Instead, set allow network access to Never on that client so it won't upload. Of course, you won't be able to upload/download WUs for any other project on that client either though.

The enigma server is groaning.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:03 pm

There's till over 7 days left to build a whopper of a bunker and earn that next Enigma badge! I'll be working towards that last 10 mil amethyst badge. Nearly 5 mil to go though so fat chance of reaching it but it's a start. :)

Post by **pinhodecarlos** » Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:16 pm

Anyone of you have one of these?

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:21 am

pinhodecarlos wrote:Anyone of you have one of these?

We need to get this moved to the single board computer forum, but in the mean time I'm sure Dirk will be this like a hobo on a ham sandwich.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:25 am

I've got a similar bay trail. Really good but as mine runs android only seti beta and WUProp has work for it ( Collatz did but no more )

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:02 am

scole250 wrote:
pinhodecarlos wrote:Anyone of you have one of these?

We need to get this moved to the single board computer forum, but in the mean time I'm sure Dirk will be this like a hobo on a ham sandwich.

R U kidding? At 145 pound for a cherry trail board? Only when there's 'Asrock' printed on the PCB!
And then they will be much cheaper, easier to cool and able to support much higher RAM and SSD capacity...

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:47 pm

as per requests AP now signed up for challenge as well.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:59 pm

Alez wrote:as per requests AP now signed up for challenge as well.

I'm only putting my androids on AP. TSBT gets the thermonuclear bunker drop.

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:24 am

AMD Users is getting terrorized by Intel fan-boys vandalizing our homepage, so I can't publish the team challenges over there.
If nothing comes from AMDave's restoration effort I will crunch Enigma for AP, for those pirates on my neighbour island during this challenge.

Post by **Bryan** » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:26 am

Hopefully enough SUSA folks show up to counter your humongous bunker drop so I don't have to help. In that case I'll be running for the Pirates

I have a feeling I'll have to run for SUSA to play catch up and that might be an exercise in futility.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:51 am

What's happening over at AMD Dirk ? You guys getting hacked or something ?
Frre DC forum down too.

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:34 am

Alez wrote:What's happening over at AMD Dirk ? You guys getting hacked or something ?
Frre DC forum down too.

May be the same underlying cause (Spambotting). Both AMD Users and FreeDC use the same CMS/Forum software.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:17 pm

There's still over 4 days to save up!

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:57 pm

Alez wrote:What's happening over at AMD Dirk ? You guys getting hacked or something ?
Frre DC forum down too.

FreeDC Forum up -never was really down, we just got misdirected (but that may have been foul play too)- again.
We're not really hacked, but some spammer as injected code into our CMS that acts as a spambot it seems.
One of our US members also reported a fake -Dutch!- Avast message when visiting our forum, code was hidden in a special WCG signature.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:31 am

That seems like a lot of effort to get to a Boinc Team. Can you PM me the name and email of the user if it was a new user rather than a long term user who got caught out ?

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:24 pm

It was a very long time user who reported it -and it was only visible using the new Microsoft Edge browser

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:28 pm

Both my AP droids out of this already as they are droid 5 and droid 6. Just found out you can't use above droid 4 on this project.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:33 pm

The change to how formula boinc is run makes it pretty pointless for me or anyone else to run for AP on this challenge.

By going away from RAC based to number of members based they have changed the whole point of the comp from being open to any team regardless of size only limited by effort put in to an inclusive comp for larger teams. I will bet that the sprint events they have planned will show very little change as I doubt that many of the teams will be actively targeting the comp. I think it's fair to say that on almost every team the vast majority are crunch a single project and forget members. By moving to this format they have excluded the majority of dedicated crunchers that are competitive. For instance, MeisterKeuler who ran TSBT so close last year are not in the team list either and OC UK have been relegated to league 3, Sici is league 2 etc.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:47 am

And the Enigma server groans...

(it appears the SETI.USA server was hacked by the Democrats

)

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:03 am

McShane of TSBT wrote:
Alez wrote:The change to how formula boinc is run makes it pretty pointless for me or anyone else to run for AP on this challenge.

I was wondering which team I should crunch for in this challenge. I actually had AP in sight, changed Team etc before the start but now I am crunching for TSBT. I concur with you Alec regarding FB. It looks like we are going to have a year without FB to worry about.

Crunch for TSBT. Let's have a good showing! Of course, over 2 hours and no challenge update makes me nervous

Post by **Bryan** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:46 am

I hit 100M on Goofy so I just moved over. Besides not being able to get work the server is telling me that .76b needs some 20 digits worth of RAM and I only 19 digits worth of RAM. Those numbers aren't correct, but I think it is giving it in bits. A hell of a note when the machine has 128G of RAM and it isn't enough to run a Enigma WU.

I forgot that when the tiny Enigma server is feeling put upon it shuts down and does nothing. Crap!

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:37 am

Well I guess that since AP is screwed from formula boinc I might as well be back at TSBT. Least we can do is beat Gridcoin.....

Ap was 9th from 16.
Paul, might as well head back as well whilst scole might as well pull the droids back as well.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:43 am

Bryan wrote:... Besides not being able to get work the server is telling me that .76b needs some 20 digits worth of RAM and I only 19 digits worth of RAM. Those numbers aren't correct, but I think it is giving it in bits. A hell of a note when the machine has 128G of RAM and it isn't enough to run a Enigma WU.

I got that a couple of times. Restart the boinc client and try again.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:41 pm

And TSBT has jumped out into the lead!

They're coming for us though. Ramp up!

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:10 pm

Bryan wrote:... Besides not being able to get work the server is telling me that .76b needs some 20 digits worth of RAM and I only 19 digits worth of RAM. Those numbers aren't correct, but I think it is giving it in bits. A hell of a note when the machine has 128G of RAM and it isn't enough to run a Enigma WU.

Running it on my Pi 2's and 3's, where each core has a meagere 256MB of RAM to play with...

Post by **Bryan** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:41 pm

scole250 wrote:And TSBT has jumped out into the lead!

They're coming for us though. Ramp up!

Coming for you

We can't even see your tail lights anymore

TSBT is doing a fantastic job ... keep hammering it everyone! Winning the 1st challenge of 2017 is definitely a possibility.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:47 pm

Now the other teams are whining about bunkering

Well, not all of them. Just the 2nd place team

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:17 pm

I've finally managed to get back onto the forum and this thread. Consider me moved back to tsbt

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:26 am

Was it a bird? Was it a plane? No, I've just been run over by McShane!

Post by **Bryan** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:56 am

scole250 wrote:Now the other teams are whining about bunkering

Well, not all of them. Just the 2nd place team

Don't look now, but who is the 2nd place team? Oooops

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:10 am

Bryan wrote:
scole250 wrote:Now the other teams are whining about bunkering

Well, not all of them. Just the 2nd place team
Don't look now, but who is the 2nd place team? Oooops

My bad. It was the 1st place team doing the whining

EDIT: I'm going to get closer to that 10 mil badge than I though :)

EDIT2: For the record, the first place team's comments about bunkering were in fun. They're actually public enemy #1 in the anti-bunkering league

Post by **Bryan** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:08 pm

SUSA isn't playing fair! For quite a few hours we were slowing gaining on them and now they are starting to pull away

It appears that my call for help didn't have a lot of takers

Shoot!

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:19 pm

When Alez gets home he might be able to find a few more cores. Maybe some others might take another look.

Come on lads and lasses! Let's take these guys down!

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:06 am

found an i7 sitting around behind the sofa, a core duo tomorrow once windoze is banished. The rest need new parts I'm afraid.

Post by **Bryan** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:12 am

Damn I'm getting old and sloppy! I moved all machines over from Linux Goofy right after this thing started. I looked at the RACs on the project and I had a 12 thread I7 that was way below what it should be. I looked at the machine and it was running the stock app ... no opti app at all.

So hopefully my hourly numbers will improve a little! Dang it!

Post by **Bryan** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:34 am

McShane of TSBT wrote:I also found an i7 980 that works but it needs a HDD as I kind of borrowed it for a later machine. I am on my way to buy one shortly.

That'll certainly help

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:41 pm

We need a diversion. What project are those guys dying to get WUs for? We'll post that the project has WUs available in challenge shout box and see who takes the bait

Post by **Bryan** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:52 pm

It's going to get interesting ... someone pointed out that if things remain the same then TSBT will overtake them in 24 hours

Speaking of diversions, the new Denis Beta app has work. It has a 10 day deadline so you can load up a machine and immediately come back to Enigma. Star time :)

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:50 pm

No core duo yet but my RAC seems to be climbing

Two more linux systems to 'enhance'

now that I have the usual permissions mess about sorted.
I've even started things rolling on prime with gpu's. Ahead of the game or what.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:58 pm

Roadranner has just been run over .... Joe the meat muncher up next

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:21 pm

It's a good thing Mumps doesn't like Enigma and cineon_lut has fortunately decided to sit this one out.

EDIT: Looks like Mumps is doing some enigma. I wonder who did the arm twisting? I hope they all got serious indian burns

Post by **Bryan** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:16 pm

scole250 wrote:
EDIT: Looks like Mumps is doing some enigma. I wonder who did the arm twisting? I hope they all got serious indian burns

Mumps only did 22k yesterday so less that 1k/hour and he is on track today to do about the same.

Unless SUSA finds more resources we might just pull this off. Of course if we do I'm going to have to keep a very low profile when I return home

It's probably poor form to spike the ball and do my end zone dance :bounce:

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:39 pm

Just cracked top 20. I'm doing the fat man wobble dance