Water Cooling :pale:

Post by **robmacagain** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:29 am

Well i am going to attempt Water Cooling my system sometime in the coming week and i will endeavour to make a log of my adventures on here just in case that anyone is tempted to have a go, you never know this may just turn out to be a suicide note

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I will be attempting (you noticed i am saying attempting ha ha) to build a loop which will include my processor and my graphics card which are a AMD FX8350 and a MSI r7990 (AMD reference card).

Post by **robmacagain** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:30 am

Well the gfx water block is coming but how an order that was placed on Saturday is going to arrive before the one i placed last Wednesday is mind boggling if you ask me??????

Oh well i will fit it to the card later on today and will just make do with the 7750 for now, i will edit this with the pictures later as i do it :).

Post by **robmacagain** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:30 am

Just received order update from water cooling and the kit is on its way and was dispatched today, so its on for tomorrow.

Post by **robmacagain** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:30 am

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Janos (retired) · Post by **Janos (retired)** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:24 pm

Lots of pics please :)

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:35 pm

I'm with Janos, plenty of pics.
I think Water Cooling might well be my next project

Post by **robmacagain** » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:50 pm

I will post piccys nae bother.

In the mean time if you need a laugh just read this > http://www.avforums.com/threads/kramer- ... wer.56924/ make sure that you have your water proof nappys/diapers on before you do

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Post by **robmacagain** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:21 pm

UD 1 see above.

Janos (retired) · Post by **Janos (retired)** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:34 pm

robmacagain wrote:I will post piccys nae bother.

In the mean time if you need a laugh just read this > http://www.avforums.com/threads/kramer- ... wer.56924/ make sure that you have your water proof nappys/diapers on before you do .

Oh that is superb!

Post by **robmacagain** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:38 pm

Well the GPU block has arrived, look at the size of that box its way too big for whats inside!!!

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Its only taking about 1/4 of the big box up

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They even chucked a bag of sweets in lol

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Deconstruction time!!

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Arctic cooling MX2, which was supplied but wasn't enough so it was lucky that i had another spare tube, oh and thermal tape on the memory chips and the vrm's :).

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And on it goes.

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I have not added the fittings just yet as i am waiting for the rest of the kit to arrive but i have had to order another back plate for the CPU as the supplied one is for an Intel god damn, so it may be Wednesday before d day

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:49 pm

Mmm, it's so shiny! 8)
looking good so far!

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:06 am

That does look all shiny

Me likey , me likey a lot. Will be good to see the whole system together :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Post by **robmacagain** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:13 am

Here we go :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

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Post by **robmacagain** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:58 pm

It has come but the cpu cooler back plate wont fit my board but will be here in a day or two.

I'm impatient bugger so i just plumbed it in without it and will have to modify it when the back plate arrives, but for now.

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Look at this mess ha ha.

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Leak test, i left it for 3 hours and no drips yahh.

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I definitely need to do some cable management and i will take further pics when i have the cpu done and all tidied up. well that is if i can be bothered to do the cable management.

Initial impressions
1 its so much quieter as the fans dont ramp up the hotter it gets.
2 with boinc running before it was a job keeping the gpu below 85c now it maxes out at 68 way better.

I cant wait for the cpu holder to come, hurry up!!!

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 12:15 am

On a note of your temps, I upgraded my drivers for the 6990 to 14.4. All running well except that I cant run milkyway v2 anymore, only the modified fit. Or so I thought. Checking the tech cave I thought the system in question was running a little quiet. Quick check with afterburner and the GPU was running 99 % activity, fan profile on auto at only 29 % and the GPU running at 103 deg C . EEEEEK. 90 % manual on the fan and it's down to low 80's. Maybe I need some liquid cooling for that one

and seems the fan profile doesn't work with those drivers

Post by **robmacagain** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:50 am

I'm having a couple of hours bash at Collatz and its been running for roughly an hour and its steady @ 68c which is brill, i was at 90% fan and it was hovering at 85-86c and the noise was annoying as hell before without the water cooling much much better, get it done you know you wanna , its not even that hard to do

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Post by **robmacagain** » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:37 pm

I cant use 14.4 it does some weird down throttling on this rig when the gpu usage hits 99%_100% it slows the core to 500hz from 1000 and slows the units down to 2 minutes for 8 from 1:30 for 8 dont know why either

Then there is the new 14.6 beta that locks the system when it goes to screensaver and you have to reeboot to get it working again grrrrr, so i am on 13.12 wddm as it works just groovy man :drunken:.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 1:47 am

Think the 6990 / 6970 paired system is going back to 12.8

Guess retro is cool

or at least works like it's supposed to

Post by **robmacagain** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:57 am

Alez wrote:Guess retro is cool

Literally

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Post by **robmacagain** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 4:11 pm

The water cooling company have finally bothered to post out the back plate for the cpu cooler but by RM so all being well i can finish the job tomorrow, but it is royal mail and i won't be surprised if it takes a few days!!!

Post by **robmacagain** » Thu Jun 19, 2014 6:11 pm

Woo hoo, i seem to have a plethora of 120mm fans 'angin' around so i thought i would have a play.

I have 2 120mm fans pulling sat on top of the rad and my gpu has been running Collatz for a few hours and it was topping out at 71c and 72c respectively on each core after this few hours (this is wayyy better than 90% fan and noisy as hell and 85c) so as i have still got the humongous cpu heatsink fan in there, so i managed to get another 120 on the bottom of the rad blowing up (push/pull), cant mount 2 cos the heat sink is in the way and its only gone and dropped it down to 60c and 62c another 10c lower

, so when i get the flaming cpu heat sink out of there i am going to mount another one next to it (240mm rad)and hopefully i will get a further 10c down again, but this is just conjecture on my part and i shall see when i get the water block mount on and rigged up.

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Post by **robmacagain** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 9:43 pm

The back plate came, i mean seriously what took it so long?, look at the date

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And another 3 hour leak test before i fire it all up again, can you spot the new bit of added pipe, it seriously stains the tube quick enough.

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Feeling confident i shifted the kitchen towel and had a quick blast, now with 2 corsair fans blowing up and two yate loons on the top pulling.

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I tested it with Collatz and Enigma running at the same time and with both the Gpu was hitting 68c and 70c and the Cpu cores were coming in at 58c across all cores, with just Enigma on the go the cpu cores made 52c after an hour and a half and with just Collatz going the Gpu hit 56c and 58c so the 2 push 2 pull seems to have lowered it a bit more, all in all i am quite happy and it was not really that difficult to do and i am well pleased with it and the peace and quiet is brilliant compared to all the fans straining to keep the cpu and gpu cool when it was being hammered.

I would recommend it to all of you especially if running cpu projects, it makes one hell of a difference 8)

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Alez · Post by **Alez** » Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:51 pm

That looks really neat and professional.

Post by **robmacagain** » Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:25 pm

Had a bit of a change, installed a new 5.25 inch dual bay reservoir with 12v pump that's powered via the pc's power supply as the 1st one was a 230v one and i was a bit scared in case it got unplugged when the computer was on and it all overheated and fried the cpu and gpu, and that's a possibility when you have a 19 month old knocking about, and added some mayhems red dye.

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I have not tidied up the cables just yet as tomorrow i have a new 120mm radiator and fan arriving for the rear exhaust port as i want to cool it further so i will add another picture when i have finished then

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:20 am

Looking even better. Love the red dye ...... it's alive .... the monster ..... it lives

Post by **robmacagain** » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:19 am

Still not finished this just yet, i will update when i have done and i am a happy bunny.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:52 pm

Looking good Rob

I've maybe missed it somewhere but what size radiator are you using and how did you work out that it was big enough?
Some people seem to use a load of massive rads but you seem to be doing alright with one?
Any hints and tips as I am really tempted to give it a go

Post by **robmacagain** » Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:10 pm

Not really, i just ordered a kit with a 240mm rad and used it realised it wasn't big enough and added another 120mm rad to the rear, the only tip i have is do yourself a favour and add a drainage port on the lowest point of the loop or when you need to drain it your in s*** and will get coolant everywhere.

Oh just get some de ionised water from halfords (5 litre's for Â£2.99) too as the coolant is way silly in price its like Â£7-Â£8 per litre, also get some concentrated biocide from tinternet add 2 drops per liter of fluid in your loop.

Post by **robmacagain** » Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:44 am

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Quick screenie, gpu core 1 is 29c core 2 is in ulps hence 0c and all the 8 cores are @ 6c whilst surfing 8).

Just waiting on my fan controller arriving so i can lower the corsair fans speed's on the radiators while the system is doing nothing as whilst not loud they whoosh and hum a little too much as there at full pelt all the time 2350 rpm.

Here is where its at at the moment.

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Oh aye i replaced the Yate Loon fans on the rads with some high static pressure Corsair performance edition sp120's.

Post by **robmacagain** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:22 pm

Fan controller added but i have not rooted it out the back yet, look at the mess

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Will tidy it all tomoz.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:42 pm

How often do you have to check the reservoir level or add to it?

Post by **robmacagain** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:20 pm

scole250 wrote:How often do you have to check the reservoir level or add to it?

I haven't added anything so far but i have drained it and re laid it out to get the best flow and cooling route sorted out.

It is recommended to change the coolant every 6 months or so and just to keep an eye on the coolant level but it shouldn't lose any as its sealed up.

Post by **robmacagain** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 5:31 pm

I think that this is me

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The few stray wires are temperature probes monitoring water temps in and out of the gpu and in and out of the cpu and one just hanging around the case to monitor case temp.

8) :bounce:.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:07 pm

Looking good Rob

Since I'm on my phone and struggling to see properly; what's your loop order?
Pump> top rad> gpu> rear rad> cpu> pump?

Would it not save a few crossovers if you went pump> top rad> cpu> rear rad> gpu> pump.
Feel free to tell me to shut up, it's your machine and money after all!

I do love how "small" the gpu looks without all the fans and covers, looks tiny

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:05 am

That is so neat compared to my various systems lying about with the lids off, wires everywhere, PSU's sitting on top of cases etc, etc. I'm inspired for later in the year :) A cracking good job to be proud of. Love the temperature controller at the front, does it get radio 1

Post by **robmacagain** » Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:47 am

Alez wrote:That is so neat compared to my various systems lying about with the lids off, wires everywhere, PSU's sitting on top of cases etc, etc. I'm inspired for later in the year :) A cracking good job to be proud of. Love the temperature controller at the front, does it get radio 1

No not R1 but it does get Capital Manchester, and Key 103 :) and thanks.

Silver wrote:Looking good Rob
Since I'm on my phone and struggling to see properly; what's your loop order?
Pump> top rad> gpu> rear rad> cpu> pump?

Would it not save a few crossovers if you went pump> top rad> cpu> rear rad> gpu> pump.
Feel free to tell me to shut up, it's your machine and money after all!

Thank you :).

The loop is this (i will say my reasons in a mo) pump/reservoir>Cpu>rear radiator>Gpu>top radiator>pump/reservoir.

My reasons are this 1st the tdp of the Cpu is 125w the tdp of the Gpu is 400w and the reservoir is only heat rated to 60c so the Gpu needs the best heat dissipation as it gets way hotter than the Cpu and the Reservoir cant handle 60c + going into it for hours on end it may buckle or even burst the acrylic tank after prolong periods of too much heat.

2nd the Gpu is heating the fluid to 60c (on a prolonged run) and as the Res cant take that for too long it has to be cooled down before it hits it, then the back rad cools the Cpu fluid before it hits the Gpu.

My order takes out a lot of fluid heat the Gpu produces before it hits the Res, if i went Gpu to pump/res the fluid would be too hot for it, to be honest i probably could do with the back being another 240 but it doesn't have the space there so i am mulling over sticking in a 2nd 120 Rad to the bottom or the front and if i didn't just rush into it and planned it correctly i would have done that to start with.

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Post by **robmacagain** » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:20 pm

Right my mate came around today and he is a bit of a whizz with all things computer (its his job) looked at my loop laughed at it

dismantled it and blew up my PSU that cost Â£104

with not disconnecting the loop properly and water going into it "BANG" ffs.

He decided that my loop order was nae good and that i needed to get rid of the 120mm rad and replace it with a 240mm one, so he had a new 240mm one unused and gave it to me with some new white uv reactive tubing, and installed it into the base after taking a metal drill and drilling umpteen new holes into the bottom of my corsair case

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Anyway we ended taking the PSU back to scan after we gave it the hairdryer treatment (hope they don't read this ha ha) and they just replaced it just like that no questions no lies!!!

So any way he re routed it like so res>gpu>top rad>cpu>bottom rad>res, new fluid.

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After what 3 odd hours none stop crunching and we get this>

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Its lowered the temps even more than before, i am a very happy bunny now very happy indeed.

Were off now (the local boozer for a shandy).

And here it is

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Arrivederci :drunken:

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Post by **scole of TSBT** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:41 am

Very good on the cooling. Been looking at the water cooling. What is a 24 PIN ATX bridge tool used for? Best I understand, it's simply a plug to fool a PSU into thinking it's plugged into the mobo. Why is that needed? Unless it's in case you need to use a separate PSU for the cooling? Cooling doesn't draw that much juice does it?

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:14 am

Your on the right lines Scole. As far as i understand it the bridge is just to fool the psu into firing up, this allows you to run the pump and coolant to check for leaks without the risk of drowning and shorting your cpu, motherboard and gpu.

Post by **robmacagain** » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:59 pm

Yes Paul is correct, its so you can test the loop without fear of water hitting powered up components from a leak.

And as for power consumption my pump only uses 16 watts so it's not power hungry at all.

Post by **robmacagain** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:00 am

I have uprated my case also added a 360mm radiator in the roof and some uv reactive tubing, also added thicker tubing now using 10/13 (3/8-1/2) and done a general tidy, as the last one looked messy, this is not the end as i want some angled fittings and a new tube reservoir with some uv lighting to show it off and some coloured psu cables

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Bags of space should i need thicker radiators (i doubt it though)

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Alez · Post by **Alez** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 6:30 pm

Looks wicked

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:01 pm

Stop posting pics Rob!!
You are just taunting me and making me think even more about splashing the cash and water cooling my pc

Looks good though mate

Post by **robmacagain** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:29 am

Silver wrote:Stop posting pics Rob!!
You are just taunting me and making me think even more about splashing the cash and water cooling my pc

Looks good though mate

I aint finished yet min

, i cannae wait, but i can only go as fast as spare funds will allow so sadly its going to be after pay day (sometime after 30th) and a tube reservoir with pump, probably a photon > http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showprodu ... =WC-272-XS payday can not come around soon enough

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Post by **scole of TSBT** » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:49 pm

I hope you'll be putting that GPU through its paces during the Collatz challenge starting on the 12th...http://www.dunadd.co.uk/seti/forum/view ... 148&t=2387

Post by **robmacagain** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:09 pm

Couldn't wait for pay day, pffft

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Now i need that UV light strip

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Post by **scole of TSBT** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 7:33 pm

As many times as you have changed and upgraded, you are an expert user. Looks good.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:36 pm

Yip, looking good. Soon you'll have enough spare parts to build another

Janos (retired) · Post by **Janos (retired)** » Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:11 pm

Happy times :)