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#1 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:18 pm
by scole of TSBT
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/challenge/team/chat/844
Name Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Status Upcoming
Project Enigma@Home
Issued by SETI.USA
Start time 2017-01-02 00:00 UTC
End time 2017-01-07 00:00 UTC
Late entrants allowed? Yes
Number of teams participating 8
Number of users participating 0
#2 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:23 pm
by scole of TSBT
Bunkering can begin in 4 days. Just sayin' :)
#3 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 11:50 am
by Silver
I sense that you're up for a challenge Scole

#4 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:30 am
by Bryan
The project will give a max of something like 1180 WU / machine.
Since it will start after Jan 1 you might consider crunching for the Pirates

FB 2017 you know!
BE SURE TO INSTALL THE NEW OPTI APP!!! BIG BOOST OVER THE OLD ONE!
#5 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:45 am
by Alez
Bryan wrote:The project will give a max of something like 1180 WU / machine.
Since it will start after Jan 1 you might consider crunching for the Pirates

FB 2017 you know!
BE SURE TO INSTALL THE NEW OPTI APP!!! BIG BOOST OVER THE OLD ONE!
Might just sign the pirates up for it then if theres a demand

Wont be home for opti apping though and the firewall out here really hates any Polish addresses. Must be set in full Brexit mode

#6 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:55 pm
by scole of TSBT
I've got a separate account I'll put on my androids for AP. The dreadnoughts will stay on TSBT.
#7 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 12:21 am
by Alez
FB2017 for AP is just a bit of fun as league 2 was a real slog for us last year. Most of us were not enjoying it by the end.
Do you have full access now Pete ? You should be able to see another layer of the site.
#8 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:05 am
by scole of TSBT
If you're going to start a different BoincClient after the current one finishes all it's WUs, then you can't can't use the firewall otherwise you'll block downloads to the new clients. Instead, set allow network access to Never on that client so it won't upload. Of course, you won't be able to upload/download WUs for any other project on that client either though.
The enigma server is groaning.
#9 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 9:03 pm
by scole of TSBT
There's till over 7 days left to build a whopper of a bunker and earn that next Enigma badge! I'll be working towards that last 10 mil amethyst badge. Nearly 5 mil to go though so fat chance of reaching it but it's a start. :)
#10 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 11:16 pm
by pinhodecarlos
Anyone of you have one of these?
#11 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:21 am
by scole of TSBT
pinhodecarlos wrote:Anyone of you have one of these?
We need to get this moved to the single board computer forum, but in the mean time I'm sure Dirk will be this like a hobo on a ham sandwich.
#12 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:25 am
by Alez
I've got a similar bay trail. Really good but as mine runs android only seti beta and WUProp has work for it ( Collatz did but no more )
#13 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:02 am
by Dirk Broer
scole250 wrote:pinhodecarlos wrote:Anyone of you have one of these?
We need to get this moved to the single board computer forum, but in the mean time I'm sure Dirk will be this like a hobo on a ham sandwich.
R U kidding? At 145 pound for a cherry trail board? Only when there's 'Asrock' printed on the PCB!
And then they will be much cheaper, easier to cool and able to support much higher RAM and SSD capacity...
#14 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:47 pm
by Alez
as per requests AP now signed up for challenge as well.
#15 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:59 pm
by scole of TSBT
Alez wrote:as per requests AP now signed up for challenge as well.
I'm only putting my androids on AP. TSBT gets the thermonuclear bunker drop.
#16 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:24 am
by Dirk Broer
AMD Users is getting terrorized by Intel fan-boys vandalizing our homepage, so I can't publish the team challenges over there.
If nothing comes from AMDave's restoration effort I will crunch Enigma for AP, for those pirates on my neighbour island during this challenge.
#17 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:26 am
by Bryan
Hopefully enough SUSA folks show up to counter your humongous bunker drop so I don't have to help. In that case I'll be running for the Pirates

I have a feeling I'll have to run for SUSA to play catch up and that might be an exercise in futility.
#18 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:51 am
by Alez
What's happening over at AMD Dirk ? You guys getting hacked or something ?
Frre DC forum down too.
#19 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 11:34 am
by Dirk Broer
Alez wrote:What's happening over at AMD Dirk ? You guys getting hacked or something ?
Frre DC forum down too.
May be the same underlying cause (Spambotting). Both AMD Users and FreeDC use the same CMS/Forum software.
#20 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 1:17 pm
by scole of TSBT
There's still over 4 days to save up!
#21 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:57 pm
by Dirk Broer
Alez wrote:What's happening over at AMD Dirk ? You guys getting hacked or something ?
Frre DC forum down too.
FreeDC Forum up -never was really down, we just got misdirected (but that may have been foul play too)- again.
We're not really hacked, but some spammer as injected code into our CMS that acts as a spambot it seems.
One of our US members also reported a fake -Dutch!- Avast message when visiting our forum, code was hidden in a special WCG signature.
#22 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 6:31 am
by Alez
That seems like a lot of effort to get to a Boinc Team. Can you PM me the name and email of the user if it was a new user rather than a long term user who got caught out ?
#23 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:24 pm
by Dirk Broer
It was a very long time user who reported it -and it was only visible using the new Microsoft Edge browser

#24 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:28 pm
by Alez
Both my AP droids out of this already as they are droid 5 and droid 6. Just found out you can't use above droid 4 on this project.
#25 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 1:33 pm
by Alez
The change to how formula boinc is run makes it pretty pointless for me or anyone else to run for AP on this challenge.
By going away from RAC based to number of members based they have changed the whole point of the comp from being open to any team regardless of size only limited by effort put in to an inclusive comp for larger teams. I will bet that the sprint events they have planned will show very little change as I doubt that many of the teams will be actively targeting the comp. I think it's fair to say that on almost every team the vast majority are crunch a single project and forget members. By moving to this format they have excluded the majority of dedicated crunchers that are competitive. For instance, MeisterKeuler who ran TSBT so close last year are not in the team list either and OC UK have been relegated to league 3, Sici is league 2 etc.
#26 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 12:47 am
by scole of TSBT
And the Enigma server groans...
(it appears the SETI.USA server was hacked by the Democrats

)
#27 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:03 am
by scole of TSBT
McShane of TSBT wrote:Alez wrote:The change to how formula boinc is run makes it pretty pointless for me or anyone else to run for AP on this challenge.
I was wondering which team I should crunch for in this challenge. I actually had AP in sight, changed Team etc before the start but now I am crunching for TSBT. I concur with you Alec regarding FB. It looks like we are going to have a year without FB to worry about.
Crunch for TSBT. Let's have a good showing! Of course, over 2 hours and no challenge update makes me nervous

#28 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:46 am
by Bryan
I hit 100M on Goofy so I just moved over. Besides not being able to get work the server is telling me that .76b needs some 20 digits worth of RAM and I only 19 digits worth of RAM. Those numbers aren't correct, but I think it is giving it in bits. A hell of a note when the machine has 128G of RAM and it isn't enough to run a Enigma WU.
I forgot that when the tiny Enigma server is feeling put upon it shuts down and does nothing. Crap!
#29 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:37 am
by Alez
Well I guess that since AP is screwed from formula boinc I might as well be back at TSBT. Least we can do is beat Gridcoin.....
Ap was 9th from 16.
Paul, might as well head back as well whilst scole might as well pull the droids back as well.
#30 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:43 am
by scole of TSBT
Bryan wrote:... Besides not being able to get work the server is telling me that .76b needs some 20 digits worth of RAM and I only 19 digits worth of RAM. Those numbers aren't correct, but I think it is giving it in bits. A hell of a note when the machine has 128G of RAM and it isn't enough to run a Enigma WU.
I got that a couple of times. Restart the boinc client and try again.
#31 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 6:41 pm
by scole of TSBT
And TSBT has jumped out into the lead!
They're coming for us though. Ramp up!
#32 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:10 pm
by Dirk Broer
Bryan wrote:... Besides not being able to get work the server is telling me that .76b needs some 20 digits worth of RAM and I only 19 digits worth of RAM. Those numbers aren't correct, but I think it is giving it in bits. A hell of a note when the machine has 128G of RAM and it isn't enough to run a Enigma WU.
Running it on my Pi 2's and 3's, where each core has a meagere 256MB of RAM to play with...
#33 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 7:41 pm
by Bryan
scole250 wrote:And TSBT has jumped out into the lead!
They're coming for us though. Ramp up!
Coming for you

We can't even see your tail lights anymore
TSBT is doing a fantastic job ... keep hammering it everyone! Winning the 1st challenge of 2017 is definitely a possibility.
#34 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 9:47 pm
by scole of TSBT
Now the other teams are whining about bunkering
Well, not all of them. Just the 2nd place team

#35 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 10:17 pm
by Silver
I've finally managed to get back onto the forum and this thread. Consider me moved back to tsbt
#36 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:26 am
by Dirk Broer
Was it a bird? Was it a plane? No, I've just been run over by McShane!
#37 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:56 am
by Bryan
scole250 wrote:Now the other teams are whining about bunkering
Well, not all of them. Just the 2nd place team

Don't look now, but who is the 2nd place team? Oooops

#38 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 2:10 am
by scole of TSBT
Bryan wrote:scole250 wrote:Now the other teams are whining about bunkering
Well, not all of them. Just the 2nd place team

Don't look now, but who is the 2nd place team? Oooops

My bad. It was the 1st place team doing the whining
EDIT: I'm going to get closer to that 10 mil badge than I though :)
EDIT2: For the record, the first place team's comments about bunkering were in fun. They're actually public enemy #1 in the anti-bunkering league

#39 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:08 pm
by Bryan
SUSA isn't playing fair! For quite a few hours we were slowing gaining on them and now they are starting to pull away
It appears that my call for help didn't have a lot of takers

Shoot!
#40 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:19 pm
by scole of TSBT
When Alez gets home he might be able to find a few more cores. Maybe some others might take another look.
Come on lads and lasses! Let's take these guys down!
#41 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:06 am
by Alez
found an i7 sitting around behind the sofa, a core duo tomorrow once windoze is banished. The rest need new parts I'm afraid.
#42 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:12 am
by Bryan
Damn I'm getting old and sloppy! I moved all machines over from Linux Goofy right after this thing started. I looked at the RACs on the project and I had a 12 thread I7 that was way below what it should be. I looked at the machine and it was running the stock app ... no opti app at all.
So hopefully my hourly numbers will improve a little! Dang it!
#43 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:34 am
by Bryan
McShane of TSBT wrote:I also found an i7 980 that works but it needs a HDD as I kind of borrowed it for a later machine. I am on my way to buy one shortly.
That'll certainly help

#44 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:41 pm
by scole of TSBT
We need a diversion. What project are those guys dying to get WUs for? We'll post that the project has WUs available in challenge shout box and see who takes the bait

#45 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 2:52 pm
by Bryan
It's going to get interesting ... someone pointed out that if things remain the same then TSBT will overtake them in 24 hours
Speaking of diversions, the new Denis Beta app has work. It has a 10 day deadline so you can load up a machine and immediately come back to Enigma. Star time :)
#46 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:50 pm
by Alez
No core duo yet but my RAC seems to be climbing

Two more linux systems to 'enhance'

now that I have the usual permissions mess about sorted.
I've even started things rolling on prime with gpu's. Ahead of the game or what.
#47 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 5:58 pm
by Alez
Roadranner has just been run over .... Joe the meat muncher up next

#48 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 6:21 pm
by scole of TSBT
It's a good thing Mumps doesn't like Enigma and cineon_lut has fortunately decided to sit this one out.
EDIT: Looks like Mumps is doing some enigma. I wonder who did the arm twisting? I hope they all got serious indian burns

#49 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:16 pm
by Bryan
scole250 wrote:
EDIT: Looks like Mumps is doing some enigma. I wonder who did the arm twisting? I hope they all got serious indian burns

Mumps only did 22k yesterday so less that 1k/hour and he is on track today to do about the same.
Unless SUSA finds more resources we might just pull this off. Of course if we do I'm going to have to keep a very low profile when I return home

It's probably poor form to spike the ball and do my end zone dance :bounce:
#50 Re: 02/01-07/01 Enigma - A New Year Challenge
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:39 pm
by Alez
Just cracked top 20. I'm doing the fat man wobble dance
