SPLIT CPID's / Accounts

[PinkPenguin]

TJ's stats and BOINCSTATS now only have two utopia-i's each. Only four projects to bring into line: NumberFields, Seti, SIMAP and SubsetSum... should be OK by the weekend. 8)

[utopia-i]

Thanks to all for your help and enthusiasm - the guilt of being mentioned so much in the Forums is creeping in - I'm usually very low maintenance - but hey! - it may help someone else ....

[CycloneRanger]

I still have three accounts with Temujin, but one is a null (Predictor, I presume), and one contains the still-moribund QMC which I have updated. So I guess mine is as good as it gets, pending QMC's return to the living. I assume there's no way to get rid of the null one.

[PinkPenguin]

The situation for CycloneRanger still seems to be as for my previous post except ABC:

• on BOINCSTATS you there are only 2 CycloneRangers and your dead projects are already aligned with your main ID. ABC has aligned itself with your main ID (current CPID) which leaves only Spinhenge and QMC on your secondary id - as noted before QMC is not producing stats files at the moment and Spinhenge hasn't updated it's stats since march this year (see above for details).
• on TJs stats you are still 3 CycloneRangers and the dead projects DNETC and Predictor can only be aligned with your main id by a manual intervention on TJ's database (maybe an eMail to TJ with a suitable incentive... ) ...As you say QMC should come back on-line eventually given that they have set up a whole new website and were running test WUs in september.

The fact that TJ has already aligned Spinhenge with your main ID does indicate that he is using different matching criteria than BOINCSTATS. TJ and BOINCSTATS both agree on QMC and BOINCSTATS probably archived the dead projects Predictor and DNETC when they were still aligned with your other projects which is probably why they are OK on BONCSTATS.

[Megacruncher]

Thanks to all for your help and enthusiasm - the guilt of being mentioned so much in the Forums is creeping in - I'm usually very low maintenance - but hey! - it may help someone else ....

Indeed, this is part of a general campaign against the split CPID evil: We want all victims of this glitch to know how to heal themselves! :)

[utopia-i]

TJ's stats and BOINCSTATS now only have two utopia-i's each. Only four projects to bring into line: NumberFields, Seti, SIMAP and SubsetSum... should be OK by the weekend. 8)

2 weekend later still have a twin ..
http://homepages.ed.ac.uk/kennys/current.png

ideas ?

[CycloneRanger]

I'm thinking that sync is problematic for certain projects for roughly forever.

I have two IDs on BAM (with Spinhenge and QMC in the 'flier') and three on Temujin's (one blank (Predictor?), one with QMC, and one with the rest. The credit numbers match up only approximately between the two for individual projects as well.) My best guess is that I'm stuck like this in perpetuity unless those two projects generate some activity to cause the managers to update. YMMV.

[PinkPenguin]

TJ's stats and BOINCSTATS now only have two utopia-i's each. Only four projects to bring into line: NumberFields, Seti, SIMAP and SubsetSum... should be OK by the weekend. 8)

2 weekend later still have a twin ..
http://homepages.ed.ac.uk/kennys/current.png

ideas ?

Hopefully your client is later than v6... if not > update it... (sorry, had to make sure!)... The short answer is: "Attach the project with the oldest join date to your client for a while" (1 or 2 weeks maybe).

In your case this would be one of CPDN, WCG, ABC, ALBERT, EINSTEIN, YOYO, MILKYWAY in that order - I would attach CPDN with "no new tasks" as they are really long runs these days if you can get them... EINSTEIN or MILKYWAY are probably a good choice to run as they are older than the four non-aligned projects and you have better visibility of CPIDs and things through your account than WCG. I think YOYO has an older server so it may not be the best one to actually run for a while.)

As you always use the same eMail and PWD on all projects there is very little else you can do. Please note, given the detail that follows, that the higher CPID is what is on your non-aligned projects so you want these to align with the older, lower CPID.

I think you would need Numbers, SIMAP, Seti and Subset to align with big group - the other way round would be a problem as some projects simply wouldn't come into line the other way round. If you are a little paranoid like me I would probably stop running numbers for a while and run one or two of the older projects for a few days before restarting numbers.

Here's the full detail from the FAQ on Mundayweb if you are interested (http://boincfaq.mundayweb.com/index.php?view=192):

The Cross-Project Identifier is a 32 character hexadecimal key that combines the MD5 hash of your domain name, IP address, free disk space, and a timestamp of your computer on a project, locked to your email address (the unique identifier).

The CPID is used by statistics sites to quickly see which projects your computer is attached to.

The projects do not communicate your CPID directly between projects. The CPID has to go through your computers in order to synchronize. So, if you have multiple computers attached to multiple projects, there must be a path from project server to client to project server that covers all projects to which you have computers attached. There must also be successful communications between the client and the project server to update the project server with the CPID.

The CPID changes if you change the email address, and the email address used at each project must be the same as that used for all other projects you are attached to.

Older clients will switch to the higher CPID when a project generates a new CPID. Newer clients will keep the CPID from the project with the oldest join date. Note that because this date is not transferred back to the server except with version 6 clients and the most recent servers, there is a bug where the CPID can be split and one project flips between these two. If this is the case, attach the project with the oldest join date to all hosts for a while.

Oh, and by the way, best of luck...

[PinkPenguin]

I'm thinking that sync is problematic for certain projects for roughly forever.

I have two IDs on BAM (with Spinhenge and QMC in the 'flier') and three on Temujin's (one blank (Predictor?), one with QMC, and one with the rest. The credit numbers match up only approximately between the two for individual projects as well.) My best guess is that I'm stuck like this in perpetuity unless those two projects generate some activity to cause the managers to update. YMMV.

Yep! The two on IDs on BAM and Temujin's site won't come into alignment until they update the stats on the server (QMC stats directory is still empty and the last stats for Spinhenge are date 3rd of March 2013 - so no changes). You will have to wait until these projects return active - if the stats don't update alignment isn't possible unless BAM shifts them to the dead projects area where you can attempt to do alignment through the BAM -> sync retired projects menu (but only if the project was included in your BAM! account at the time of retirement).

As far as BAM is concerned Predictor is aligned whereas TJ thinks it's a different person (yes, the blank one is Predictor with 98,403 credits)... as it's a dead project the only thing you can do is ask TJ nicely via pm on the UBT forum...

[stewartcollinge]

I have 2 accounts on the seti... classic and boinc. can they be reconciled... (can remember the (very) old email account, but not a cat in hells chance of the password). If not, the good news is, they are on the team stats... or are they?

[Alez]

Go here http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/sah_classic.php and follow the instructions to claim your seti classic workunits. It will combine your accounts and will give you a record of the classic units completed but not the points. All you need is the old email address and it will be linked to your new account.

[stewartcollinge]

Thanks Alez... but getting a bit confused (must be age or something...) Don`t like a doppelganger on the table ...any help (even via PM with some details gladly given) , would be a boon... as said in my PS3 post, quite rusty at the mojo... :-0

[Alez]

Ok Stewart, not sure what the issue is but as far as I remember ( did this a while ago )
Go to Seti and log into your account using your current user id and password.
Go to Seti home page.
On the left ( getting started ) , under #2
Special instructions:

For SETI@home Classic participants, select this option.

it will take you to Instructions for SETI@home Classic users page.
under
If your SETI@home Classic email address is no longer valid:
select
Claim your SETI@home Classic workunits.

If I remember it will now ask you for your old e mail address you used on seti clasic. Fill it in and it should combine your two accounts under your current account.

Follow this through and hopefully all will be well :) If not post up the problem or PM me if you don't want the post visible

[stewartcollinge]

Thanks Alez. It would have worked fine... But I have 2 Boinc accounts now and they cannot be reconciled (apparently).. I seem to recall, in distant times, that when seti went boinc, my classic credits were converted. Thus 2 accounts! So, going to have a play with Linux and PS3....(wailing and gnashing imminent) ; )

[Alez]

So, going to have a play with Linux and PS3....(wailing and gnashing imminent) ; )

Good luck with that

[stewartcollinge]

Please see post on help/ps3... but many thanks.