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#1 AMLogic SOCs

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The AMLogic Matrix on the Antutu 5.x benchmark
ImageTypeFabGPUCPU Integer(mt)CPU float-point(mt)CPU Integer(st)CPU float-point(st)
S805Cortex-A5 Quad28 nmQuad-core ARM Mali-45013941455882931
S802Cortex-A9 Quad28 nmOcto core ARM Mali-4502952378519172142
S812Cortex-A9 Quad28 nmOcto core ARM Mali-4502393268717351483
S905Cortex-A53 Quad28 nmPenta-core ARM Mali-4502310248315871510
(MT)=multi-threaded, (ST)=single-threaded
Source: https://www.cnx-software.com
BTW: The S805 is what makes the Odroid-C1 tick, the S905 does it for the Odroid-C2...
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#2 Re: AMLogic SOCs

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Bummer. I thought the S812 was as fast as the S802. I've noticed it was a little slower though. Can't find any (reasonably priced) S802 boxes any more :(
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#3 Re: AMLogic SOCs

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Antutu showed the 'ancient' S802 to be perhaps the best chip that AMLogic has yet produced. How are the scores under Geekbench?

The AMLogic Matrix on the Geekbench 4.x benchmark
ImageTypeFabGPUCPU Integer(mt)CPU float-point(mt)CPU Integer(st)CPU float-point(st)
S805Cortex-A5 Quad28 nmQuad-core ARM Mali-45012851057447327
S802*Cortex-A9 Quad28 nmOcto core ARM Mali-45020561448647428
S812Cortex-A9 Quad28 nmOcto core ARM Mali-45022431344694372
S905Cortex-A53 Quad28 nmPenta-core ARM Mali-45020441443601423
S912Cortex-A53 Octo28 nmTriple core ARM Mali-T82034942158571374
*=Geekbench 3 (due to the age of the S802)
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#4 Re: AMLogic SOCs

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So the S802 is perhaps the best chip that AMLogic has yet produced. How does it compare with its brethren -that are all fabricated using a 28 nm production process-, specs-wise?

The AMLogic Product Matrix
ImageTypeCPU SpeedGPUGPU SPeedGPU SDK specsApplication
M805Cortex-A5 Quad1500 MHzDual-core ARM Mali-450 MP2500 MHzOpenGL ES 2.0/1.1, OpenVG 1.11 GB Tablets
S805Cortex-A5 Quad1500 MHzDual-core ARM Mali-450 MP2500 MHzOpenGL ES 2.0/1.1, OpenVG 1.1Mediaplayers, SBC (Odroid-C1/C1+)
M801Cortex-A9 Quad2000 MHzOcto-core ARM Mali-450 MP6600 MHzOpenGL ES 2.0/1.1, OpenVG 1.12GB Tablets
M802Cortex-A9 Quad2000 MHzOcto-core ARM Mali-450 MP6600 MHzOpenGL ES 2.0/1.1, OpenVG 1.14GB Tablets
S802Cortex-A9 Quad2000 MHzOcto-core ARM Mali-450 MP6600 MHzOpenGL ES 2.0/1.1, OpenVG 1.1Mediaplayers
S812Cortex-A9 Quad2000 MHzOcto-core ARM Mali-450 MP6600 MHzOpenGL ES 2.0/1.1, OpenVG 1.1Mediaplayers
S805XCortex-A53 Quad1200 MHzTriple-core ARM Mali-450 MP3 (3 x Pixel processors and 2 x Vertex shader processors)-OpenGL ES 2.0/1.1, OpenVG 1.1
S905Cortex-A53 Quad1500 MHzTriple-core ARM Mali-450 MP3 (3 x Pixel processors and 2 x Vertex shader processors)700 MHzOpenGL ES 2.0/1.1, OpenVG 1.1Mediaplayers (Amazon Fire TV, Element/SkyStream One, T95X Android TV Box), SBC (Odroid-C2)
T962Cortex-A53 Quad1500 MHzTriple-core ARM Mali-450 MP3 (3 x Pixel processors and 2 x Vertex shader processors)750 MHzOpenGL ES 2.0/1.1, OpenVG 1.1Smart TVs
T966Cortex-A53 Quad1800 MHzDual-core ARM Mali T830 MP2650 MHzVulkan 1.0, OpenGL ES 3.1, OpenVG 1.1, OpenCL 1.2, Direct3D 11Smart TVs
T968Cortex-A53 Quad1800 MHzDual-core ARM Mali T830 MP2650 MHzVulkan 1.0, OpenGL ES 3.1, OpenVG 1.1, OpenCL 1.2, Direct3D 11Smart TVs
S912Cortex-A53 Octo1000(LITTLE), 1500(big) MHzTriple core ARM Mali-T820 MP3600 MHzVulkan 1.0, OpenGL ES 3.1, OpenVG 1.1, OpenCL 1.2, Direct3D 11Mediaplayers (Element/EZ-Stream Ti8, EVANPO Smart TV Box, Kukele Strongest Mediaplayer, Minix Neo U9-H)
S922Cortex-A73 Quadl/Cortex-A53 Dual1800(big) MHz, 1900(LITTLE)Dual core ARM Mali-G52 MP6 (3 EU per core)846 MHzVulkan 1.1, OpenGL ES 3.2, OpenVG 1.1, OpenCL 2.0, Direct3D 11Odroid-N2
If you still prefer the Cortex-A9 over the Cortex-A53 (and viewed by performance per core/thread, which is what BOINC is mostly about, you are right), and you long for the performance of ye olde S802, try to find a tablet that works on a M802 (e.g. Onda V975m). Otherwise try to give the S912 a try.
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#5 Re: AMLogic SOCs

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scole of TSBT wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:02 pm If anyone in the UK is looking for Android devices to crunch WCG on, these work well and the price is right. They are Android 4.4 so you can install Native Boinc on them. These are the S812 chip.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/312355707356
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/163385293205
Will report on this once I get a working version :roll:
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Well it is working now. I cut the DC plug off of the supplied PSU and pushed the wires into a spare socket on a modular ATX power supply.

Boinc installed and first WU ready to run. It won't start while my display is on and I couldn't see anything to enable RPC / GUI. Boinctasks isn't seeing it either (but I haven't entered a password or authorised IP address as I couldn't see where to).

ETA : Sudden thought, is there maybe another App I need to download?
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going on all 4 cores now - I saw the option to "run while display on"

still not seen by boinctasks but I guess I can live without that
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#9 Re: AMLogic SOCs

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davidBAM wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:20 pm going on all 4 cores now - I saw the option to "run while display on"

still not seen by boinctasks but I guess I can live without that
Which version of Boinc? NativeBoinc or the one from Berkeley? As far as anyone can tell so far, only NativeBoinc will allow remote connections but you will need to add your BoincTask system IP address to the Android system NativeBoinc client list of hosts permitted to connect to it.
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Didn't pay much attention TBH - let me check
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Okay - I aborted the tasks on the Berkeley Boinc and started again with NativeBoinc (using the .ADK as it wasn't in the PlayStore)

Now crunching on WCG and showing on Boinctasks - which is just as well as NativeBoinc wouldn't let me add WCG at all. Boinctasks showing 4 WU each utilising 55-65% of the CPU (100% allowed). There are some scary run-time estimates so will have to see what actual times get returned
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Anyone tried Teamviewer Host on Android?
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#13 Re: AMLogic SOCs

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davidBAM wrote: Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:47 pm Anyone tried Teamviewer Host on Android?
Last time I tried it it was only useful to connect to other systems from Android. Didn't provide desktop control of Android.
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I am finding much the same I think. Life is too short to lose 2 hours on this
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... ... just then, the teamviewer website almost connected through a Flash (really!! I thought Flash was on the way out) interface - only to tell me that the host system doesn't support it yet. Sigh.
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#16 Re: AMLogic SOCs

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Solved it with hardware - HDMI to a soundbar which also gives HDMI output to a second input on the same monitor I use on my main workstation. Perfect for a classical music radio station to soothe me while I work.

Seems to Boinc away quite happily while streaming radio
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