The Referendum

[scole of TSBT]

How are things settling out after the vote?

[Silver]

Hmm, things seem to have settled down a bit.
A lot of unhappy people after the result, which is understandable, but as per some of the run up some people were going a bit over the top and being very unpleasant about not getting their way. All sorts of accusations about vote rigging, miss counting etc etc.
That seems to have died down now, at least on my Facebook, and we now seem to be debating around getting more power in the Scottish parliament and what affect this will have on the rest of the uk and what changes need/should be made to the rest of the UK.
Fingers crossed we can all move forward together now.

Interestingly I was at a friends house tonight and we were chatting about the result.
Two of them had started looking at houses in England in the days before the referendum, Needless to say they were both quite happy with the result.

[robmacagain]

So Alex Salmond was right after all, Scotland CAN still use the pound after September 18th .

[Megacruncher]

We mustn't gloat!

Unless of course we encounter someone, more likely an earnest patronising younger colleague than a friend, who says something like "I can't believe that so many people were so lacking in courage." At which case you should point out that being content with a status quo which has worked out well over 3 centuries and not being persuaded by a leap in the dark, lead by a burnt-out old curmudgeon who is too irritable & tired to think things through, is a sign of wisdom rather than cowardice.
THEN you should gloat!

[davidsandilands]

Well giving a slight kick to a hornets nest, some of the comments are a little dissapointing the votes split was obvious, older people who had pensions (the most generous there ever will be) voted no (everything to lose), middle aged people in good jobs were more likely to vote no than yes (something to lose) and the young particularly those in their 20s "first generation poorer than their parents", were overwhelming yes (nothing to lose). Gloating over people who wanted a change that "I'm allright Jack" isn't great when they have no hope for better in the current arrangement (note I'm actually in the Something to lose category).

Westminsters London centric strategy is failing every region of the UK outside of it and without affordable housing or decent jobs trouble is still brewing. I sense May will be telling.

[Alez]

Well I'll respectfully kick the hornets nest straight back and state that the actual percentage breakdown of votes showed very little of the bias you are quoting with support both for and against split throughout the age demographics. I would also say that the complete lack of credible economic policies hurt the Yes campaign far more than the perceived something to loose. Most people will accept the status quo when the alternative is completely unknown or blatantly false.
I will agree that gloating is not cool, but neither is the refusal to accept that the majority decision was to stay with the union. Whatever happened to the once in a generation opportunity or the acceptance of the sovereign will of the Scottish people ?
The SNP need to accept that they lost and get on with governing the country for the whole of the population, not issuing threats and soundbites to whip up the 45% and continue to allow a sense of grievance to fester. The nationalism they are now stoking is a Pandora's box of nastiness to open. Do we want Ireland repeated ?

[davidsandilands]

The only poll going (take into mind it isn't a proper exit poll since there isn't one) would tend to backup those assertions. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... croft-poll (althought the only wild bias is in the oldest generation)

To say the alternative was completly unknown is and was utter garbage. Intelligent assertions could be made as to what you thought was likely and taking into mind it was a deliberate choice by the UK government not to negotiate terms of a split before the vote and many of the uncertainties were artifically created by the British government refusing to give a position on what it would do (when it knew fine well). Leading to the ultimate hyprocsy of a Government whos official currency policy on the euro is wait and see and is fairly likely to have a vote on EU membership in the next couple of years acting as if these two issues it held solid positions on during the campaign.

It was a sad reflection of the campaign, other than some buzz words the union campaign had nothing positive to say and no real vision of the future until the last minute panic of the now broken vow, which most people accepts means the Edinburgh agreement was broken. Thats where I would imagine SNP see as their right to go back on their promises (not that the vow really changed the result).

I would like to see a reformed federal UK as opposed to an independant Scotland which I know is nothing more than a pipe dream since the whole system is rigged for London and they are very happy with it like that but to say that the 45% who do not agree with the current setup should just shutup and put up with it is I'm afraid exactly what creates such dangerous situations of discontent in the first place.

[Megacruncher]

We can agree on the federal UK option at least.