17/1-24/1 NumberFields@home January challenge

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:12 am

http://boincstats.com/en/stats/challenge/team/chat/840

Name NumberFields@home January challenge
Status Upcoming
Project NumberFields@home
Issued by Colombia
Start time 2017-01-17 12:15 UTC
End time 2017-01-24 12:15 UTC
Late entrants allowed? Yes
Number of teams participating » 10
Number of users participating 0

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:21 pm

Are we still on for this? This is a 7 day challenge

I'm starting to see the virtue of shorter challenges.

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:29 am

I'll give it a whirl.

Post by **Bryan** » Tue Jan 10, 2017 11:35 pm

So are you guys going to really run this or not?

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:34 am

It's either this or Seti.. No serious bunkering though. Just a day between yoyo and this.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:28 am

I'm going to take a spin on VGTU then onto this challenge.

Post by **Bryan** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:43 am

scole250 wrote:It's either this or Seti.. No serious bunkering though. Just a day between yoyo and this.

If you're going to run Seti then I'll stick on TN-Grid and take it to the next milestone - 5M. If you are going to do Numbers then I'll pull off when I hit 2.5M (tomorrow morning) and start a bunker. I could do a "Scole"

Your call ... I certainly don't need credits or hours on NF.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:02 am

Oh go on, bunker drop biggly

, we secretly love it when scole is out scoled

especially as he will attempt to outscole the outscoler

If home I will even attempt a bunker

Post by **Bryan** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:56 am

Alez wrote:Oh go on, bunker drop biggly , we secretly love it when scole is out scoled especially as he will attempt to outscole the outscoler
If home I will even attempt a bunker

Oh I don't know Alez. He'd probably whine and make some lousy excuse like he was tied up on another challenge and would have kicked butt otherwise

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:44 pm

You two seem to be doing a grand job winding up Scole so I'll just say that I'm certainly not going for the seti option

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:08 pm

Prepping for the enigma and pg challenges wore me out. Not sure I can take the monotony of prepping for and running another 7 day challenge so soon.

Post by **Bryan** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:00 pm

scole250 wrote:Prepping for the enigma and pg challenges wore me out. Not sure I can take the monotony of prepping for and running another 7 day challenge so soon.

What did I tell you Alez

BTW, ole GC is averaging about 780k/day on NF. I'm not sure we can take them without a solid bunker. Then again, I don't know what kind of numbers we can put up either

I hit my low goal on TN so I'm moving machines over to NF now.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:08 pm

Let's see a show of hands who else is willing to bunker and run this challenge? If there's enough interest and participation I may join too

Which OS pays best Win64 or linux?

EDIT: Ok you slackers. Get on it! Rechenkraft is going to ban me for aborting all those yoyo WUs. Not my fault though. It's the scheduler. I only set the cache to 2 days of work. After a day of working on it, the remaining time swelled to over 7 days.

Post by **Bryan** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:45 pm

Well Paul and Alez already said that they are in so we were just waiting for the big boy to realize it was what he really wanted to do

Not that we coerced you in any manner of course!

I've been trying to build a big cache ... some machines are fighting it and others aren't. But I've turned in some WU on each computer and if the numbers hold (I don't know if it uses Credit Screw) then 780k/day won't be a problem for us to cover

I might actually be able to do a Scole

I think this will be my last 7 day challenge!

Silver · Post by **Silver** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:02 pm

Bryan wrote: I think this will be my last 7 day challenge!

Its not even mid January yet Bryan!

Are we going to go for this and miss the yo yo comp, since we can't bunker/do both

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:40 pm

I've got about a days work on yoyo done. I'll let that go after the challenge starts and I'll put my androids on ogr but other than that you all bullied me into running this all out

Post by **Bryan** » Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:16 am

I've put the lid on everything ... at least the 1st batch. I don't know how long they will last but that is what multiple BOINC instances are for :) I'm finding that a lot of the WU only run for a couple of seconds and others run for hours.

Post by **Bryan** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:08 pm

Interesting, BTasks is showing the deadline on my WU as the morning of the 18th (7 days). Looking at my tasks on the project it shows the deadline is on the 21st (10 days). I don't think I've ever seen that before.

@Scole, when are you planning on cutting it loose? I'm currently thinking I'll do it fairly early so I can get the machines set for the week llloooonnngggg slog. What idiot suggested doing a 7 day challenge ... we oughta kick their butt

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:43 pm

For a 7 day challenge it's kind of boring to just do one big drop and then wait out the next 7 days. My oldest WUs aren't due until the 18th at 11am eastern (according to BT) so I was going to wait until late in the day on the 17th and upload just the first batch. Then slow release over a few days. Spread the fun out a little. And I saw the same thing on the WU deadlines. Obviously an anti-bunker feature. Trying to fool us into loading up too soon. Didn't work!

Post by **Bryan** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:47 pm

But if I stagger the release then how will I know if I managed to do a "Scole"?

BTW, I posted on the project forum and asked what the true deadline is. I'd certainly hate to ignore BTasks/Boinc Manager and find out they are correct.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 3:56 pm

You can release them any way you wish.

Post by **Bryan** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:07 pm

scole250 wrote:You can release them any way you wish.

I was just being a smart a$$

I'm hoping the admin says there is actually a 10 day deadline. Then I'll probably just start it with clean machines and wait until I have to start cutting them loose for the bunker.

Post by **Bryan** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 4:50 pm

From the admin;

There is a 7 day deadline with a 3 day grace period, so you really have 10 days to complete the task.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:55 pm

When do you want to wait to upload? Friday evening? Now I don't mind waiting 3 days into a challenge and dropping a bomb. That would be fun too.

Post by **Bryan** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:12 pm

With the additional 3 days then I MUST dump on the 21st so I'm thinking the 20th would be a good time for the 1st batch. The high thread machines will have a 2nd batch that'll have to go by the 23rd so I will cut those loose on the 22nd. Or if you want we can release all of them at the same time.

I just suspended all WU in cache and I'm going to let all running WU finish. The big machines didn't have enough cache left to make it until morning. I'm going to bring up new instances on all machines and get some work. Then when it starts I will release that 8-12 hour bunker and just run it straight.

It'll be interesting to see how TSBT does against GC with no bunker. I'm betting we'll kick their behinds. They're only doing 780k/day.

If you have a different plan then I'm game for that too

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:27 pm

I think waiting until the 20th (half way though) and releasing as needed to meet the deadlines will deliver a good buzz kill to the teams leading.

Post by **Bryan** » Mon Jan 16, 2017 10:42 pm

I just looked and GC has increased their output over the last 3 days. It went from their 780k -> 889k -> 1M -> 1.2M. They could actually make it interesting for several days.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 11:21 am

Absolutely. This is a TSBT team effort. Join in with whatever you think you can.

Post by **Bryan** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 12:23 pm

McShane of TSBT wrote:Do you want me to join? I can't guarantee just how many deckhands I can muster but I could join with something even if I have not bunkered. I am concerned with the heat, storm and Swambo's scorn. :blackeye:

You betcha Pete ... we can certainly use the help! I looked last night and GC had 49 people put up credits on NF yesterday! It'll be interesting to see how we do against them.

Fighting the weather and heat of summer is tough! Not much you can do about it.

Post by **Bryan** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:07 pm

Dang, out of the 1st 31 users on the challenge, 23 of the are from GC!

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 4:50 pm

Bryan wrote:Dang, out of the 1st 31 users on the challenge, 23 of the are from GC!

Wait till the number of participants has doubled, in a few hours from now.
It is now 31 out of 54....
It is now 35 out of 64....and for some devious reason, I'm still not there, with those 29.
and now 40 out of 75. I'm in!
AMD Users will, together with Boinc@Poland and Boinc.Italy, attack Gridcoin from the rear while TSBT will keep them busy at the front end.

Post by **Bryan** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 5:44 pm

Dirk Broer wrote:
Bryan wrote:Dang, out of the 1st 31 users on the challenge, 23 of the are from GC!
Wait till the number of participants has doubled, in a few hours from now.
It is now 31 out of 54....

Well bring em on! What TSBT lacks in size we make up for with "mean"

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Tue Jan 17, 2017 10:30 pm

Where's team Colombia? For that matter, where's Gridcoin?

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:10 am

scole250 wrote:Where's team Colombia? For that matter, where's Gridcoin?

You sure you're looking at the right stats? Gridcoin is in 2nd position.
41 of the Borg against the rest, 38 crunchers.

Post by **Bryan** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:32 am

Dirk Broer wrote:
You sure you're looking at the right stats? Gridcoin is in 2nd position.
41 of the Borg against the rest, 38 crunchers.

Yeah, but GC isn't doing squat! We're having a hard time slowing up enough to keep them in the game

I guess I can start bunkering a couple more machines. In case you haven't noticed, I'm betting that Scole can do a little more than 80k in 13 hours!!!!

The host team hasn't put a single credit on it ... I don't think I've ever seen that before. Maybe they forgot

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:47 am

Bryan wrote:The host team hasn't put a single credit on it ... I don't think I've ever seen that before. Maybe they forgot

They could be harbouring the mother of all bunkers...in short MOAB

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 1:53 am

I'm more worried about SETI.USA. I hear they're still sore about having to work for their Enigma win

Post by **Bryan** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:01 am

Dirk Broer wrote:
Bryan wrote:The host team hasn't put a single credit on it ... I don't think I've ever seen that before. Maybe they forgot
They could be harbouring the mother of all bunkers...

I think we will see the mother of all bunkers during this challenge. However, I don't think GC or Columbia is the team holding it :bom: But of course that is just a guess on my part.

We did pretty good on the Enigma challenge. Mumps and Cineon had to fire up to pull away from us!

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:20 am

Columbia always start these challenges and then end up last. I've spanked them as AP with just my laptop.

Real question is shall we school the borg yet again

Crack on chaps and lets show them what a team that doesn't need a payout to join is all about. Oh and i'm back

except it's bloody late and I'm not asleep

Post by **Bryan** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 6:05 am

Welcome home Alez!

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 9:17 am

The lackluster performance of the Borg might be explained by their own challenges,
where ATLAS is still going on and LHC is just about to begin.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:08 pm

This is like surf fishing at high noon in the middle of July when it's 95F with rough surf. Ain't nothing biting except the flies.

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:00 pm

Either you are holding in the MOAB, or they are creeping up

NumberFields@home January challenge

Post by **Bryan** » Wed Jan 18, 2017 8:16 pm

Dirk Broer wrote:Either you are holding in the MOAB, or they are creeping up

NumberFields@home January challenge

Actually it's may be both

They increased their output last night just about the time I put the lid on some machines because we had been increasing our lead. Either good timing on their part or very poor timing on my part.

The situation should start correcting itself in a few more hours.

Post by **Bryan** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:17 am

McShane of TSBT wrote:I can't allow the Borg creeping up. That means I need to run my machines 24/7, bugger the expense...

Check your PM's Pete!

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:10 am

Still waiting for some mem modules ' in the post '

, at least my hd's have arrived. Also need to get one of my servers up and running but think mem controller on board is trashed so guess I need another moboard. More scrap for recycling

On the plus side I should have a new pup in the house in a few weeks, a house is empty without a faithful hound and I miss my husky mutt.

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:19 pm

What kind of hound?

And Gridcoin isn't going to add any more resources. Their LHC challenge starts tonight and they've booked a vLHC challenge right after that (which I'm in favor of running, I need the WUProp hours). And then they challenge crapped on SETI.USA's TN-Grid challenge and booked their own which ends less than 2 days before SUSA's starts. Come on guys.

Post by **Dirk Broer** » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:38 pm

From the vLHC forum:

Laurence: (VLHC Project Administrator): Please don't run the challenge here. User account creation is disabled. Please instead use LHC@home.

Erkan Yilmaz (Gridcoin): OK, we'll cancel this challenge

Post by **scole of TSBT** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:46 am

EDIT: My bookmark was to the old project site. I didn't realize all the sub-projects they had! Do they get reported to WUProp under the LHC project or Atlas, vLHC for those apps who run them too? Never mind. I checked WUProp. Wow I'm out of touch.

Well that stinks. I don't need any LHC hours.

Alez · Post by **Alez** » Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:39 am

And Gridcoin are muppets. So far up their own butts, will be a pleasure to watch their demise. Hound is a cross between an alsatian mother and a collie father. The dogs look like bears, the bitches will be large to. Sure there is a weird name for what is a mixed breed. How could I turn down a mutt that had the attitude to try and chew my nose off before falling asleep in my arm ?